Discussion:
Cornell law professor blasts Southern Poverty Law Center for stirring hate
(too old to reply)
Bill Sawa
2012-08-17 15:30:42 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) of Montgomery, Alabama
was first established decades ago to combat the Ku Klux Klan and
racism in general through its work in helping impoverished
blacks fight discrimination. In recent years, however, SPLC has
exhibited a tendency to label anyone or any group that disagrees
with them as "racist" or a "hate group," says a Cornell Law
School professor.

William A. Jacobson, an associate clinical professor at Cornell
Law School, stated Wednesday in a piece written for Legal
Insurrection that SPLC attempts to cut off debate and quell the
free expression of ideas by labeling its political opponents as
"hate groups."

And it so happens that conservatives and conservative
organizations are the ones SPLC targets on a regular basis.

For example, the Family Research Council has been at the
forefront of the news this week due to a shooting that occurred
at its headquarters in Washington. The alleged shooter stated
that the reason he opened fire is that he hates the political
views of the Council.

SPLC had added the Family Research Council to its "hate watch"
list of what it claims are known "hate groups." The reason? The
Council supports the traditional understanding of the term
"marriage."

Although marriage has been understood for at least 3,500 years
as a sacred covenant between a man and a woman, SPLC now claims
that anyone who expresses that point of view is engaging in hate
speech.

Once the SPLC labels an organization as a hate group, the
minions of the left wing fall into lockstep by staging protests,
boycotts, and bans. Chick-fil-A is a case in point. Some
universities have banned the company from their campuses, not
due to any discrimination against anyone but due to the company
president's support for the traditional definition of marriage.

No one anywhere has been able to document a single case of
discrimination against gays at Chick-fil-A.

Further, SPLC has targeted the tea party in a similar manner,
claiming that the group is part of the "Patriot Movement," which
it routinely smears by falsely including in its ranks white
supremacists and mass murderers such as Timothy McVeigh.

However, there is no evidence linking the tea party to either
white supremacists or McVeigh. But this did not prevent SPLC
from labeling Tucson shooter Jared Loughner as a right wing
extremist long after it had been established that Loughner had
no such ties.

SPLC also has a history of targeting individuals who express a
fundamental disagreement with what most conservatives believe is
its extremist liberal mindset. SPLC once claimed that this
reporter is actually an anonymous blogger by the name of
"Ulsterman," an allegation that not only is false but for which
there is not a shred of credible evidence. Pamela Geller of the
blog Atlas Shrugs was referred to by SPLC as a hate mongering
"loon." And former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's speech at the 2010
National Tea Party Convention was labeled as an example of hate
speech because she stated that "America is ready for another
revolution," in reference to the Founding Fathers and the need
to return to the founding principles of the nation.

Jacobson maintains that these examples show that SPLC is
spiraling out of control, using the very hate speech it decries
to falsely label others and essentially silence all dissent.

(Hat tip to Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs for contributing to
this article).

ALERT!

A new entry in my regular series Musings After Midnight is now
posted at my blog, The Liberty Sphere. It's titled "With All of
THIS Going On, It's Enough to Make a Normal Person Become a
Conspiracy Theorist." Don't miss it!

Visit my ministry site at Martin Christian Ministries.

http://martinchristianministries.blogspot.com/

http://www.examiner.com/article/cornell-law-professor-blasts-
southern-poverty-law-center-for-stirring-hate
§pamßµstèr
2012-08-17 17:49:39 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
KEEP IT THE HELL OUT OF CANADIAN GROUPS, SPAMMER


"Bill Sawa" <***@nlights.com> wrote in message news:***@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
Barb May
2012-08-17 17:33:44 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Bill Sawa
SPLC had added the Family Research Council to its "hate watch"
list of what it claims are known "hate groups." The reason? The
Council supports the traditional understanding of the term
"marriage."
The laughable assertion: identifying hate groups by pointing out their
hateful rhetoric is now hate speech.

http://www.splcenter.org/family-research-council-license-to-kill-claim-outrageous
"The SPLC has listed the FRC as a hate group since 2010 because it has
knowingly spread false and denigrating propaganda about LGBT people -
not, as some claim, because it opposes same-sex marriage."

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/family-research-council
The Family Research Council (FRC) bills itself as "the leading voice for
the family in our nation's halls of power," but its real specialty is
defaming gays and lesbians. The FRC often makes false claims about the
LGBT community based on discredited research and junk science. The
intention is to denigrate LGBT people in its battles against same-sex
marriage, hate crimes laws, anti-bullying programs and the repeal of the
military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.

To make the case that the LGBT community is a threat to American
society, the FRC employs a number of "policy experts" whose "research"
has allowed the FRC to be extremely active politically in shaping public
debate. Its research fellows and leaders often testify before Congress
and appear in the mainstream media. It also works at the grassroots
level, conducting outreach to pastors in an effort to "transform the
culture."

In Its Own Words
"Gaining access to children has been a long-term goal of the homosexual
movement."
- Robert Knight, FRC director of cultural studies, and Frank York, 1999

"[Homosexuality] . embodies a deep-seated hatred against true religion."
- Steven Schwalm, FRC senior writer and analyst, in "Desecrating Corpus
Christi," 1999

"One of the primary goals of the homosexual rights movement is to
abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles
as the 'prophets' of a new sexual order."
-1999 FRC pamphlet, Homosexual Activists Work to Normalize Sex with
Boys.

"[T]he evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek
adolescent males or boys as sexual partners."
- Timothy Dailey, senior research fellow, "Homosexuality and Child
Sexual Abuse," 2002

"While activists like to claim that pedophilia is a completely distinct
orientation from homosexuality, evidence shows a disproportionate
overlap between the two. . It is a homosexual problem."
- FRC President Tony Perkins, FRC website, 2010

-------------------------------------------------
--
Barb
SaPeIsMa
2012-08-17 18:19:59 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Barb May
Post by Bill Sawa
SPLC had added the Family Research Council to its "hate watch"
list of what it claims are known "hate groups." The reason? The
Council supports the traditional understanding of the term
"marriage."
The laughable assertion: identifying hate groups by pointing out their
hateful rhetoric is now hate speech.
Now there's a circular claim
Let's not forget that the SPLC does NOT consider groups on the left to be
hate groups, even such as the New Black Panthers
The clearly hypocritical double standard of the SPLC is obvious to any
and all who have looked at it's claims

And the simplistic one of accusing ANY and ALL who don't hew to YOUR
political agenda as promulgating "hate speech" is nothing but SIXHIRB
repackaged
Barb May
2012-08-17 18:49:45 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by SaPeIsMa
Post by Barb May
Post by Bill Sawa
SPLC had added the Family Research Council to its "hate watch"
list of what it claims are known "hate groups." The reason? The
Council supports the traditional understanding of the term
"marriage."
The laughable assertion: identifying hate groups by pointing out
their hateful rhetoric is now hate speech.
Now there's a circular claim
Let's not forget that the SPLC does NOT consider groups on the left
to be hate groups, even such as the New Black Panthers
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/new-black-panther-party
"The New Black Panther Party is a virulently racist and anti-Semitic
organization whose leaders have encouraged violence against whites, Jews
and law enforcement officers."

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology/black-separatist
"Although the Southern Poverty Law Center recognizes that much black
racism in America is, at least in part, a response to centuries of white
racism, it believes racism must be exposed in all its forms. White
groups espousing beliefs similar to black separatists would be
considered clearly racist. The same criterion should be applied to all
groups regardless of their color."
--
Barb
§pamßµstèr
2012-08-17 18:50:35 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
--
SPAMMED INTO IRRELEVANT NEWSGROUPS - AND RETURNED



"Barb May" <***@nonofyourbusinessx.tv> wrote in message news:k0m3oe$ihq$***@dont-email.me...
"Ç#s" <Çons®@minority#
2012-08-17 19:15:06 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
"Barb May" <***@nonofyourbusinessx.tv> wrote in message news:k0m3oe$ihq$***@dont-email.me...
SaPeIsMa
2012-08-17 21:12:49 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Barb May
Post by SaPeIsMa
Post by Barb May
Post by Bill Sawa
SPLC had added the Family Research Council to its "hate watch"
list of what it claims are known "hate groups." The reason? The
Council supports the traditional understanding of the term
"marriage."
The laughable assertion: identifying hate groups by pointing out
their hateful rhetoric is now hate speech.
Now there's a circular claim
Let's not forget that the SPLC does NOT consider groups on the left
to be hate groups, even such as the New Black Panthers
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/new-black-panther-party
"The New Black Panther Party is a virulently racist and anti-Semitic
organization whose leaders have encouraged violence against whites, Jews
and law enforcement officers."
Well, that's a nice and recent change
Someone finally woke up and smelled SOME of the coffee
Post by Barb May
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology/black-separatist
"Although the Southern Poverty Law Center recognizes that much black
racism in America is, at least in part, a response to centuries of white
racism, it believes racism must be exposed in all its forms. White groups
espousing beliefs similar to black separatists would be considered clearly
racist. The same criterion should be applied to all groups regardless of
their color."
That's' a crock of shit
Blacks are racists against Koreans and recent black immigrants from because
of past white racism
LOL
Gap in their logic there
Post by Barb May
--
SaPeIsMa
2012-08-17 21:28:03 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by SaPeIsMa
Post by Barb May
Post by SaPeIsMa
Post by Barb May
Post by Bill Sawa
SPLC had added the Family Research Council to its "hate watch"
list of what it claims are known "hate groups." The reason? The
Council supports the traditional understanding of the term
"marriage."
The laughable assertion: identifying hate groups by pointing out
their hateful rhetoric is now hate speech.
Now there's a circular claim
Let's not forget that the SPLC does NOT consider groups on the left
to be hate groups, even such as the New Black Panthers
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/new-black-panther-party
"The New Black Panther Party is a virulently racist and anti-Semitic
organization whose leaders have encouraged violence against whites, Jews
and law enforcement officers."
Well, that's a nice and recent change
Someone finally woke up and smelled SOME of the coffee
Post by Barb May
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology/black-separatist
"Although the Southern Poverty Law Center recognizes that much black
racism in America is, at least in part, a response to centuries of white
racism, it believes racism must be exposed in all its forms. White groups
espousing beliefs similar to black separatists would be considered
clearly racist. The same criterion should be applied to all groups
regardless of their color."
That's' a crock of shit
Blacks are racists against Koreans and recent black immigrants from
because of past white racism
LOL
Gap in their logic there
Love this particular page
All that lovely specious rhetoric and labels

Take about hate speech against anyone who is not aligned with their way of
thinking
Obviously to them, if you don't buy into THEIR agenda, you're
automatically a hater.
Too bad that in my book that makes them no different from the other REAL
hate groups.
§pamßµstèr
2012-08-17 21:45:15 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
--
SPAMMED INTO IRRELEVANT NEWSGROUPS - AND CUT



"SaPeIsMa" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:k0mdau$f51$***@dont-email.me...
Bill Steele
2012-08-17 22:33:25 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by SaPeIsMa
Post by Barb May
Post by SaPeIsMa
Post by Barb May
Post by Bill Sawa
SPLC had added the Family Research Council to its "hate watch"
list of what it claims are known "hate groups." The reason? The
Council supports the traditional understanding of the term
"marriage."
The laughable assertion: identifying hate groups by pointing out
their hateful rhetoric is now hate speech.
Now there's a circular claim
Let's not forget that the SPLC does NOT consider groups on the left
to be hate groups, even such as the New Black Panthers
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/new-black-pa
nther-party
"The New Black Panther Party is a virulently racist and anti-Semitic
organization whose leaders have encouraged violence against whites, Jews
and law enforcement officers."
Well, that's a nice and recent change
Someone finally woke up and smelled SOME of the coffee
Post by Barb May
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology/black-sepa
ratist
"Although the Southern Poverty Law Center recognizes that much black
racism in America is, at least in part, a response to centuries of white
racism, it believes racism must be exposed in all its forms. White groups
espousing beliefs similar to black separatists would be considered clearly
racist. The same criterion should be applied to all groups regardless of
their color."
That's' a crock of shit
Blacks are racists against Koreans and recent black immigrants from because
of past white racism
LOL
Gap in their logic there
Post by Barb May
--
The gap is carefully picking out which example of racism you condemn.
"Ç#s" <Çons®@minority#
2012-08-17 19:15:39 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
AND RETURNED TO U.S.


"SaPeIsMa" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:k0m251$8cl$***@dont-email.me...
M.I.Wakefield
2012-08-17 19:32:30 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by SaPeIsMa
Now there's a circular claim
Let's not forget that the SPLC does NOT consider groups on the left to be
hate groups, even such as the New Black Panthers
Actually, it does.
Dano
2012-08-17 19:39:03 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by SaPeIsMa
Now there's a circular claim
Let's not forget that the SPLC does NOT consider groups on the left to be
hate groups, even such as the New Black Panthers
Actually, it does.

=========================================

Wakefield subscribes to the tried and true tactic of the far right...tell a
lie...any lie...often enough and a fair number of imbeciles will believe it.
And repeat it...over and over and over...

They also have quite a vague and far reaching notion of what constitutes the
"left".
M.I.Wakefield
2012-08-17 20:21:08 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by M.I.Wakefield
Post by SaPeIsMa
Now there's a circular claim
Let's not forget that the SPLC does NOT consider groups on the left to
be hate groups, even such as the New Black Panthers
Actually, it does.
=========================================
Wakefield subscribes to the tried and true tactic of the far right...tell
a lie...any lie...often enough and a fair number of imbeciles will believe
it. And repeat it...over and over and over...
They also have quite a vague and far reaching notion of what constitutes
the "left".
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/new-black-panther-party

"The New Black Panther Party is a virulently racist and anti-Semitic
organization whose leaders have encouraged violence against whites, Jews and
law enforcement officers."

'... but principals of the original Black Panther Party of the 1960s and
1970s— a militant, but non-racist, left-wing organization — have rejected
the new Panthers as a "black racist hate group" and contested their
hijacking of the Panther name and symbol.'
Dano
2012-08-17 20:42:40 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by M.I.Wakefield
Post by SaPeIsMa
Now there's a circular claim
Let's not forget that the SPLC does NOT consider groups on the left to
be hate groups, even such as the New Black Panthers
Actually, it does.
=========================================
Wakefield subscribes to the tried and true tactic of the far right...tell
a lie...any lie...often enough and a fair number of imbeciles will believe
it. And repeat it...over and over and over...
They also have quite a vague and far reaching notion of what constitutes
the "left".
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/new-black-panther-party

"The New Black Panther Party is a virulently racist and anti-Semitic
organization whose leaders have encouraged violence against whites, Jews and
law enforcement officers."

'... but principals of the original Black Panther Party of the 1960s and
1970s— a militant, but non-racist, left-wing organization — have rejected
the new Panthers as a "black racist hate group" and contested their
hijacking of the Panther name and symbol.'

========================================================

Yeah. So what. Do you wish to cut and paste the entire page? The point is
they condemned the damn group jackass.

"Members of the original Black Panther Party, which has no connection to the
NBPP, have heavily criticized the New Black Panther Party. An open letter
from the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation, which is run by members of the
original Black Panther Party, decries the NBPP for being a hateful and
unconstructive group. Bobby Seale, a famous founding member of the original
Panthers, calls the organization "a black racist hate group."

"By injecting themselves into racially charged and other high-profile
events, the NBPP has won considerable press attention. When members march,
they often wear coordinated, military-style uniforms — black boots, black
pants, a black shirt with NBPP patches on it, and black berets."

Seems you are confusing the two groups. The SPLC is clearly condemning the
NBPP...precisely the opposite of your illegitimate claim.
M.I.Wakefield
2012-08-17 21:40:47 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
The point is they condemned the damn group jackass.
Which was my point.

Let's play connect the dots for Dano.

SaPeIsMa wrote:

"Let's not forget that the SPLC does NOT consider groups on the left to be
hate groups, even such as the New Black Panthers"

Then I wrote

"Actually, it does."

Indicating my belief that the SPLC *does* consider the New Black Panther
Party to be a hate group.

In my next message, I posted the link that backs up that belief.

Feel free to go back and re-read the messages.
Dano
2012-08-17 22:09:43 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
The point is they condemned the damn group jackass.
Which was my point.

Let's play connect the dots for Dano.

SaPeIsMa wrote:

"Let's not forget that the SPLC does NOT consider groups on the left to be
hate groups, even such as the New Black Panthers"

Then I wrote

"Actually, it does."

Indicating my belief that the SPLC *does* consider the New Black Panther
Party to be a hate group.

In my next message, I posted the link that backs up that belief.

Feel free to go back and re-read the messages.

========================================

My mistake. I apologize. I posted the same in another thread...must have
confused the threads. And posters obviously. Sorry.
M.I.Wakefield
2012-08-17 22:14:33 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Dano
My mistake. I apologize. I posted the same in another thread...must have
confused the threads. And posters obviously. Sorry.
No sweat.

Of course, the bad news is, owning up to an error and apologizing makes you
part of the 1%. ;-)>
§pamßµstèr
2012-08-17 22:34:54 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
--
SPAMMED INTO IRRELEVANT NEWSGROUPS - AND CUT



"M.I.Wakefield" AKA Chom Noamsky AKA David Johnston <***@present.com> wrote in message news:inzXr.3807$***@fed07.iad...
Dano
2012-08-18 05:10:58 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Dano
My mistake. I apologize. I posted the same in another thread...must have
confused the threads. And posters obviously. Sorry.
No sweat.

Of course, the bad news is, owning up to an error and apologizing makes you
part of the 1%. ;-)>

=======================================

Really? Then I'm a success? Awesome! Momma would have been SO proud!

Ummm...how come my house is underwater then?
Rock Quarry
2012-08-18 05:21:27 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by M.I.Wakefield
My mistake.  I apologize.  I posted the same in another thread...must have
confused the threads.  And posters obviously.  Sorry.
No sweat.
Of course, the bad news is, owning up to an error and apologizing makes you
part of the 1%.  ;-)>
=======================================
Really?  Then I'm a success?  Awesome!  Momma would have been SO proud!
Ummm...how come my house is underwater then?
Well, you know how it goes.

The unemployed rightists who post full time here and scream about
"niggers" always accuse those they hate of being racists.

When it comes to basic economics, they blame Obama for everything,
when in reality they demonstrate their ignorance of capitalism. But
claim to be "capitalists".

They think their ways will influence people. Do their attitudes
influence you?
Rock Quarry
2012-08-18 05:31:20 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Rock Quarry
Post by M.I.Wakefield
My mistake.  I apologize.  I posted the same in another thread...must have
confused the threads.  And posters obviously.  Sorry.
No sweat.
Of course, the bad news is, owning up to an error and apologizing makes you
part of the 1%.  ;-)>
=======================================
Really?  Then I'm a success?  Awesome!  Momma would have been SO proud!
Ummm...how come my house is underwater then?
Well, you know how it goes.
The unemployed rightists who post full time here and scream about
"niggers" always accuse those they hate of being racists.
When it comes to basic economics, they blame Obama for everything,
when in reality they demonstrate their ignorance of capitalism.  But
claim to be "capitalists".
They think their ways will influence people.  Do their attitudes
influence you?
Don't worry. It's like that petroleum commercial that's on TV. The
one with the cute chick that claims how "America" is self sufficient
in oil, gas and all that stuff. Failing to mention that without
Canada, you would all be fucked.

The Natural Gas that was the flame for the Olympic Game thing in
London? That was fueled by Norway.
§pamßµstèr
2012-08-18 18:29:59 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by M.I.Wakefield
My mistake. I apologize. I posted the same in another thread...must have confused the
threads. And posters obviously. Sorry.
No sweat.
Of course, the bad news is, owning up to an error and apologizing makes you
part of the 1%. ;-)>
=======================================
§pamßµstèr
2012-08-17 22:35:38 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
--
SPAMMED INTO IRRELEVANT NEWSGROUPS - AND CUT



"Dano" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:k0mffd$q4h$***@dont-email.me...
§pamßµstèr
2012-08-17 21:45:30 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
--
SPAMMED INTO IRRELEVANT NEWSGROUPS - AND CUT



"Dano" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:k0mac5$t1n$***@dont-email.me...
§pamßµstèr
2012-08-17 21:45:00 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
--
SPAMMED INTO IRRELEVANT NEWSGROUPS - AND CUT



"M.I.Wakefield" <***@present.com> wrote in message news:m%wXr.6230$***@fed13.iad...
"Ç#s" <Çons®@minority#
2012-08-17 19:14:38 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
"Bill Sawa" <***@nlights.com> wrote in message news:***@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
BTR1701
2012-08-18 03:31:04 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
In article
Post by Bill Sawa
In recent years, however, SPLC has
exhibited a tendency to label anyone or any group that disagrees
with them as "racist" or a "hate group," says a Cornell Law
School professor.
Are we sure the SPLC isn't run by Barb May? 'Cause that sounds exactly
like what 'she' does.
§pamßµstèr
2012-08-18 18:29:40 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by BTR1701
In article
Post by Bill Sawa
In recent years, however, SPLC has
exhibited a tendency to label anyone or any group that disagrees
with them as "racist" or a "hate group," says a Cornell Law
School professor.
"Ç#s" <Çons®@minority#
2012-08-18 19:11:27 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Bill Sawa
In recent years, however, SPLC has
exhibited a tendency to label anyone or any group that disagrees
with them as "racist" or a "hate group," says a Cornell Law
School professor.
Rock Quarry
2012-08-18 05:41:24 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Bill Sawa
The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) of Montgomery, Alabama
was first established decades ago to combat the Ku Klux Klan and
racism in general through its work in helping impoverished
blacks fight discrimination. In recent years, however, SPLC has
exhibited a tendency to label anyone or any group that disagrees
with them as "racist" or a "hate group," says a Cornell Law
School professor.
He's smart!

David Duke PhD says that niggers are the problem. And he's a
professor, and a former Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux
Klan!

I'm sure that you agree. If one guy says something like Republican
Candidate for the Presidency of the USA David Duke, he can't be wrong.

After all, we know that the only reasons why blacks are not into being
Republicans is because The Democrats have fooled them and they're
nothing but stupid niggers.

There was no such thing as the Civil Rights Act of 1964. All
Democrats are from the deep south and into lynching negroes!


All we need is Mitt Romney to tell us the facts. Those damn niggers
are rooting for the wrong side!

Utah is the home of the black people! Ask a Mormon! Hundreds of
them live there!
Loading...